Thursday, January 27, 2011

My new job!! Stempledrukjes!!

Imagine this:

Hey, I have an idea -- I’m going to sell stamps on Ebay!

No, I am tired of drawing my own illustrations -- what are you kidding?  That’s too much work!!  I have this drawer full of Magnolia stamps, so I’m gonna stamp, stamp. stamp, stamp, stamp . . . on paper (wow, this is so easy!!) and now I’m going to sell them on Ebay and make some money selling them!

Wow, what an easy job I have! 


Okay, just kidding -- you don’t have to imagine it, because here it is, a whole list of stolen images being sold to stampers who either don’t know they’re committing theft -- or simply don’t care:


This instance is from the Netherlands’ version of Ebay, (actually, Marktplaats was the first place I found my prints of my images being sold as “stempeldrukjes” a year ago, but the seller did take them down when I confronted her.)  I have also dealt with people trying to sell my images on Ebay UK, so don't think I'd pick on any country -- some of my longest, most dedicated friends are from the Netherlands.

Kind of sad that "stempledrukjes is the first Dutch word I learned.

There’s even a category for this on Marktplaats!  PLEASE -- this is wrong!! I can’t fight for all these stamp companies (at a glance I see Magnolia, Greeting Farm, Penny Black . . .)

Thank you to a fan from the Netherlands who alerted me to this.  If you know the stamp companies whose work is being sold illegally here, please drop them a line and let them know.  (And leaving some “pointed but polite” feedback for these thieves on Marktplaats if you speak Dutch would be most appreciated.)  There are also buttons to report illegal sales on all these sites.

Please do NOT buy printed images or CDs containing stolen stamps, and spread the word that this is not okay.

36 comments:

  1. Thank you for posting this. We at TGF have received over 10 emails just THIS WEEK ALONE about our art being stolen and for sale, we even had a blogger selling a digi file that she TRACED and copied of our "Me time" Anya set (spa set). It is SO hard to control, but we thank our supporters and customers for alerting us so we can take them down each time!

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  2. I guess I don't have time to go looking at enough sites to pick up on any of this, but I fully support getting these people who steal images to understand what they're doing and how wrong it is.

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  3. I just looked up that word to translate it and it means stamp stools. Bizarre! I find so many people selling magnolia prints on eBay here and I report them, but honestly, they never get taken down. Maybe the Maggie people don't care. I have only bought Mo stamps in actual rubber style. I wish more were available tho.

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  4. It's only because of reading posts from you Mo, on SCS a while back that I even knew that this was wrong! I don't think most people realize that it's stealing because "the industry" hasn't done a good job of educating stampers...so this site & campaign is fabulous for that.

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  5. That gives me much hope, Anita. I really do believe education is the key :) xoMo

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  6. Mo, I couldn't see any of your work on this site, but it's hard to read, so maybe they have taken them off, but poor Magnolia, they've being scammed royally here.

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  7. Hi Bernice, I didn't see any either -- thank goodness. I have spent all my time the past few weeks dealing with this. (Notice no new stamps?) I don't know why Magnolia doesn't have someone in charge of dealing with this though. They seem to be the ones it happens to the most. xoMo

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  8. I need to have a "little chat" with a friend of mine. She posted a scanned picture of a stamp set she got at Michaels. she offer it to her readers to print it...
    I email her but she doesn;t quite understand that what she did is wrong... so I need to call her.
    I'm going to share this blog with her.

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  9. Yikes! I have faith you can show her the light, Tere! xoMo

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  10. I looked at reporting some item on ebay uk but there isn't actually an option unless you are the person they are breaking the copyright of so it makes it hard to help some of these companies. I have contacted the company but I haven't seen a response, maybe they don't care?!?

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  11. We all do care -- but some companies really don't know how to deal with it. (I know it's hard for those of us who live on the internet to believe, but the major percentage of artists, stamp companies and even fans are still computer novices.) :)

    But now that more of us are online and SEEING the stuff that's going on with copyright violation, people who sell or share stamps publicly are going to find it's not very smart or safe to market stolen "goods" where everyone can see them.

    The first/best thing to do if you see a person on EBay selling pirated images is to contact the artist/company.

    You can also send a polite message to the seller saying she has been reported to the artist -- or send the link privately to me at stampout@mosdigitalpencil.com and I'll try to set things in motion to have them removed.

    xoMo

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  12. I just hope all this doesn't cause the digital stamp artists to stop making these beautiful digitals!!! I love them and buy several.

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  13. I'm in shock that this is happening and I'm sorry this is something designers and artists have to deal with.

    I came across this post on a site that discusses art being stolen and used by larger companies. But it's a reverse situation. Creating stamps from other art. Wonder if this is something that is illegal as well. It seems that originality is lost in society today.

    http://youthoughtwewouldntnotice.com/blog3/?p=7954

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  14. Oh yes, this is certainly ALSO copyright violation. And the stupid thing is, she's infringing on the rights of a company who has probably got the pockets and the lawyers to go after her big time.

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  15. ...and I hope they do too!
    I'm not even in sniffing range of your stuff Mo but even I've hjad images stolen! How desperate (...or just plain mean...) do these peeps have to be?
    I took my showroom' blog offline for a while whilst I fixed my watermarks (which totally spoil the images now) but I suspect they'll just clean off the watermarks anyway.
    Don't know what else to do though.
    Hugs
    Eiglas
    x

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  16. Hi Mo, I think I found something similar in the UK
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/STAMPED-IMAGES-MAGNOLIA-TILDA-MOST-POPULAR-COLLECTION-/180618461739?pt=UK_Crafts_Embellishments_SM&hash=item2a0db3022b

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  17. Exactly, Jehanne! I just looked through some of that "topper" category. Soooo many Magnolias being sold illegally -- I wish the company would go after these people . . . I don't think they know how to stop it. If anyone knows people at Magnolia (I don't) they should let them know about this blog. Maybe we can help them.

    xoMo

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  18. I recently bought an old magnolia stamp from ebay yes the real thing not just an image and the angel policy said you could sell things that had been handstamped which these ones on ebay look like they are, I got a new one yesterday and noticed the policy had been changed to hand stamped and hand coloured but it still didn't say anything about being in a project which I thought was a little odd.

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  19. Wow, That's very interesting! I wonder if Magnolia just never anticipated (before) that people would get the idea to sell stamped images without even coloring them :) I think they're half a step (or so) behind in the computer age! I guess this means they're starting to catch on though!

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  20. Me as as a Dutch girl had to laugh a bit because of your word stempeldrukje, the exact word is stempelafdrukje. You missed a part :)
    I'm a member of a forum and in the past there were "stempelafdrukjes" sold in a online fleamarket. I can tell you that it's now now longer accepted so that's a step forward I think.
    Unfortunately at Marktplaats they are still sold and a lot. There are more than 100 ads on there at the moment. I do see a lot op people who sell the prints already coloured so they've found another way to sell them without being "illegal" in their eyes. Maybe you can contact the owners of Marktplaats themselves and explain the situation. I hope there's a way to stop this!

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  21. LOL, Celine! :)

    I think you're right about a bit of a step forward. If the online fleamarket is no longer allowing the stempelAFdrukjes -- that is a good sign. A also believe you're right about going directly to Marktplaats. I've heard that Marktplaza (a different but similar site?) has told stamp owners they are "not responsible for their advertisements." I believe they are very wrong in stating this -- I'm sure if they were allowing customers to sell stolen cars they would be held liable, so this is something Stamp Out intends to address with the owners. Thank you so much for your great comment! xoMo

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  22. I wish all artists that make digis would have them coloured on all the sites they are sold. That would make it more or less impossible (or at least very time consuming) for scammers to edit them and sell them illegally. I mean, taking away a watermark isn't very hard, but clearing a coloured image would hopefully scare most people off. And for us crafters it wouldn't really care if we saw the image black and white or coloured. It is of course useless if that person buys the image and THEN sells it off on E-bay but it will reduce the amount of purely saved and edited thefts.

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  23. Is this what you mean?

    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/10-Magnolia-Tilda-Mermaid-Stamped-Images-NEW-/160550933154?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item256194d2a2

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  24. A few months ago, I bought a brand new set of hAnglar and sTanglar rubber stamps on e-bay from a seller of the same name (I do believe they are a genuine site). There was a note inside the stamp set, saying that you could not sell their stamped images, unless they had been coloured-in (which I thought was a bit strange as I couldn't see why colouring the images would make any difference from a Copyright point of view). However, when I had been searching for this brand of rubber stamps, I had noticed several H and S stamped images for sale on e-bay, both coloured and non-coloured, so I e-mailed H and S with the details of the e-bay site. I checked back on e-bay several days later and the seller's site had totally disappeared, which may or may not have been as a result of my e-mail.
    I heard nothing at all from H and S, so did I do the right thing? Should I have bothered? Do H and S care? I really don't know!!!!

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  25. YES, Sylvia-Anne - you certainly did the right thing! It's really hard for small companies to keep up with the theft that goes on (and the vast majority of stamp companies are very small). That's why it's so important for people like you to report to us. I'm sure H and S was very thankful that you took the effort to tell them :) I know I would be!

    The reason it's not okay to sell the black and white is because no one is allowed to try to make a profit off the copyrighted stamp images (except the copyright holder.) Basically, you've got some person who has bought a couple of rubber stamps sitting at their craft table pounding out an infinite number of stamp images and trying to make a profit illegally.

    Plain "Colored" images are not okay to sell either -- what most companies mean in their terms of use is that it's okay to sell your fully finished, embellished card, but not just stacks of colored images. (Just this week I had stop a woman trying to sell plain colored copies of two of my designs on Marktplaats in the Netherlands.)

    Most companies want crafters to be able to sell their gorgeous, original handmade art using our images -- but we sure won't allow assembly lines -- which is basically what the people you see on ebay are illegally trying to do.

    So -- THANK you for reporting to H and S!! :)

    xoMo

    xoMo

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  26. Thanks so much Mo - your response means a lot.
    If the stamp companies could be advised to always respond with a simple "thank you" to the people who alert them about their images being mis-used, it would encourage ordinary crafters such as myself to be on the look-out again in the future, which can only be a good thing for the cause. If H and S are reading this - please take note!!!!
    All the best Mo - you are doing a great job.

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  27. Some buyers I can understand... some stamps, like H and S, are really hard to find when you want to buy them.
    But Magnolia and the more familiar brands are for sale in lots of webstores, so why buy "stempelafdrukjes"(stempel =stamp and afdrukjes = prints)when you can buy the real deal, which can be used over and over? I don't get it. That's far more fun! Stamp, stamp, stamp and you can stamp in another color or leave some parts out, weehee. ;)

    I never bought prints, but it's a bit like with the musicbiz. And I admit that I am guilty on that one: Yes, I download music, BUT.... when I like it I buy that cd (or at least I try; some are really hard to find). But I do prefer the real thing though (cd's, DVD's, books, stamps). (Yes, those are the things I love most besides my bf, lol. ;)
    And if I don't like it, I throw it away.. Actually a bit like fitting clothes (did I say that right? :S). Trying before buying. Unfortunalely, a lot of people "forget" the buying part.

    Good luck and I sincerely hope that people will buy the originals, instead of those stempelafdrukjes.

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  28. On Ebay tonight in searching for a retired set of close to my heart stamps I found a seller with Sarah Kay stamped images for sale.

    Not certain what to do with this information.

    Set of 10 Stamped Sarah Kay Images stamped on Close to My heart White CS
    Item number:160659829555
    Price:US $0.99
    Time left:1d 3h


    Hi kattfive,

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    1. for any Sarah Kay images being sold you can contact Stampavie at info(at)stampavie(dot)com

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    1. Yes! THANK YOU I'll pass these along to the Stamp Out group :)

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    2. I just happened over here today and clicked the link you had in the post. Those were on the list of results from the search...

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    3. stuff like this (especially CDs) will put companies out of business -- we're going to have to start filing lawsuits against these people. :(

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  30. Hi I found a ebayer who sells Tilda cds, the link is

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MAGNOLIA-TILDA-CD-nearly-1-000-images-/180847160591?pt=UK_Crafts_DrawingSupplies_EH&hash=item2a1b54ad0f

    so wrong!!

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  31. hi mo,

    just wanted to know as reading through that selling coloured images calling them toppers is that agaist the law/copyright? as every day i go on ebay to find hundreds of stamped images plain or with just there skin coloured, or even full images coloured saying there topper's today i have found a seller doing that with one of your images, what i gather if made up as a card that is ok to sell but just the images on it's own just stamped onto card and coloured should not make money out of it.
    here is the link hun http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ooak-Handmade-Card-Topper-By-Dawn-Mo-Manning-/150975862471?pt=UK_Crafts_Embellishments_SM&hash=item2326dcd6c7

    please could you let me know if these are ok to sell or not hun, there has been a woman selling cd's with magnolia images on which i reported yet 3 weeks later she does it again so posted on my craft group and loads of us again reported her but she still goes on and does the images, just can get through to soe people.

    hugs xx

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    1. Hi Julie, Thank you for the alert! It is NOT okay to sell toppers -- only completely finished, one-of-a-kind cards may be sold. Nothing may be sold to another crafter to finish. I'll be contacting this woman to let her know. xoMo

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