tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4996939283255428402.post2811356259384237886..comments2023-04-24T08:06:32.508-07:00Comments on Stamp Out: Angel Policies.... What are they all about?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4996939283255428402.post-34173717118348796632015-03-21T18:19:24.305-07:002015-03-21T18:19:24.305-07:00Barbara, YES you are allowed to give away cards yo...Barbara, YES you are allowed to give away cards you make -- all stamp companies allows that -- that's pretty much what crafting is all about, right? :)<br /><br />Angel Policy addresses "extra" permissions like selling, that some companies do not allow. If you don't sell, and you just give away your handmade cards as gifts, you never need to worry about looking for an Angel Policy. Only people who want to SELL their cards need to be concerned with an Angel Policy.Mo Manninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14282458244833366952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4996939283255428402.post-53434840467707569452015-03-09T09:14:29.217-07:002015-03-09T09:14:29.217-07:00If this article is accurate, I am not buying any m...If this article is accurate, I am not buying any more supplies. According to this I can't even give away the items I make. I don't really need rubber stamps for personal use. I bought them to make cards to give away to others. But evidently I don't have the right to use that image for anything but myself in most cases. The angel policies I have found only address selling which I don't do.baccsurfshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08039843533144086656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4996939283255428402.post-43177066805886622562013-08-13T09:16:32.337-07:002013-08-13T09:16:32.337-07:00It sounds like you're doing nothing wrong, Rob...It sounds like you're doing nothing wrong, Robin. There are a few companies that never allow sales of the finished work -- but most do. Still, you should always check the companies' terms of use to be sure. Watermark the cards you post online with your own watermark so no-one steals your work and claims it as their own. We've seen a growing problem with people who are entering challenges using other crafters' unwatermarked work that they have found in google searches! xoMo<br />Mo Manninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14282458244833366952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4996939283255428402.post-17029778900173989572013-07-25T17:56:59.821-07:002013-07-25T17:56:59.821-07:00I am an artist who buys stamps. I use them to ent...I am an artist who buys stamps. I use them to enter contest, challenges, publications, etc. I always give the stamp co. name when doing so. I occasionally sale my cards after a while when my collection get too large. I have always assumed all of this to be ok. Is it? I have a blog I post them to, I post to SCS as well. I need to know that I'm not doing anything illegal.Robin Clendenninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16521164673188013053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4996939283255428402.post-3231061526556371822012-01-24T09:17:26.994-08:002012-01-24T09:17:26.994-08:00Hi Artisan,
You are incorrect on that. If you pu...Hi Artisan,<br /><br />You are incorrect on that. If you purchase a commercial license from a company you can sell under the contract terms. Stamps are sold to crafters under PERSONAL license agreements, which means they are for your own personal use only and you can't sell the finished cards.<br /><br />Big UNLESS here . . . many companies have added what they call an "Angel Policy" which may give you the additional permission to sell your finished work under limited conditions: (handmade, handcolored, fully-finished card, created by you etc.)<br /><br />Check the Terms of Use of the stamp you bought (you can find those on the company's website, packaging or as a condition you need to check off on before you buy a digital stamp -- by buying it you have agreed contractually to its terms of use.<br /><br />If you can't abide by the ToU, simply look for a company that has terms you can live with -- or, since you're an artist -- draw your own.<br /><br />xoMoMo Manninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14282458244833366952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4996939283255428402.post-9800035104015110772012-01-23T23:03:45.853-08:002012-01-23T23:03:45.853-08:00Yeah, for common sense, artisan!Yeah, for common sense, artisan!Donna C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10713824991010064694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4996939283255428402.post-66846565855890991862012-01-23T23:03:30.062-08:002012-01-23T23:03:30.062-08:00I left part of my sentence out...if you make cards...I left part of my sentence out...if you make cards and sell them or give them away, you can. As long as you have purchased the stamp.artisan98https://www.blogger.com/profile/07663861531512352739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4996939283255428402.post-10529758137572684792012-01-23T23:02:02.414-08:002012-01-23T23:02:02.414-08:00Well, I do know if you buy a stamp you can make ca...Well, I do know if you buy a stamp you can make cards and sell them or give them away. And I for one do own that stamp and the right to use it. Not swap or trade it. You cannot do that. I am an artist and I do not mind ppl buying my stamps and or digis to make items and sell them. Thats why they bought the stamp. Duhhhhhhhhh....artisan98https://www.blogger.com/profile/07663861531512352739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4996939283255428402.post-80971801102727634262011-11-23T11:28:32.303-08:002011-11-23T11:28:32.303-08:00I'm sorry, it's just unreal to me that som...I'm sorry, it's just unreal to me that someone would upload them like they are THEIRS. When I hear copyright infringement, I think "sharing files" out of ignorance, not outright STEALING someone else's work. I tell you what, it's been an education, I can tell you that much!<br /><br />And thank you for the adorable images, Elizabeth,,,my granddaughter is five and she loves them! We often color them together!Holly Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06018238975930137729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4996939283255428402.post-65829792002009983632011-11-22T05:45:30.802-08:002011-11-22T05:45:30.802-08:00Holly, Mo is right about images being downloaded, ...Holly, Mo is right about images being downloaded, copyrights erased, and then the images being uploaded again as if they belong to somebody else. The entire reason I wrote my post "Ten Ways To Protect Your Art Online" (which Arabella mentioned: http://dulemba.blogspot.com/2011/11/10-ways-to-protect-your-art-online.html ) was in reaction to a gross copyright infringement of my coloring pages. You can read the story here: "Calvin & Hobbes and Copyright Infringement" at http://dulemba.blogspot.com/2011/11/calvin-hobbes-and-copyright.html . It's so difficult for artists to protect themselves in today's online environment, but we have to try. It takes people like you helping to spread the word. So, thank you! <br />Elizabeth DulembaElizabeth O Dulembahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07255495706124193452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4996939283255428402.post-85175576425906855472011-11-11T13:23:01.438-08:002011-11-11T13:23:01.438-08:00Oh holy spit, it never occurred to me that someone...Oh holy spit, it never occurred to me that someone might actually ERASE a copyright.<br /><br /><br />SERIOIUSLY????<br /><br />I guess I sound naive (all this is pretty new to me,,,I've only been collecting for about 3 months),,,<br /><br />but wow,,,,,,that takes some gall! I kind of got suspicious when I saw the same PM stamps, with two different frames,,,,,,<br /><br />and no copyright. I love the PM pages though, and don't want to sell anything with them (just personal use), but SO do not want to support anything illegal. so it might be worth it to me to pay the membership so I can put them on cards just to send to my family and friends. Will have to check that out and see if they allow that, and if it's worth me signing up.<br /><br /><br />shaking head. I just spent 4 hours arranging my digi stamps by artist so I'd know in a split second who did them, and can save them in the right file when I downlaod them,,,I also saved the angel policy of that company that comes with the stamps, so I'd know what I can do with them,,,,,and what I can't,,,<br /><br />And I can't tell you how many I had saved before I had a clue that have no copyright, no angel policy, no name whatsoever to tell me who it belongs to.<br /><br />Ugh, paid ones or free ones directly from the Artist like Elizabeth Dulemba are so much easier to figure out,,,,,<br /><br />free isn't worth it if it takes me forever to try and figure out who to credit and IF I can use it or not.<br /><br />Thanks for the info on PM,,I'll go take a look :)Holly Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06018238975930137729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4996939283255428402.post-32503121619906464512011-11-11T08:46:43.429-08:002011-11-11T08:46:43.429-08:00Hi Holly,
GREAT question!!
Those free coloring p...Hi Holly,<br /><br />GREAT question!!<br /><br />Those free coloring pages sites are one of the reasons Stamp Out was founded. Many of them are filled with art that is there illegally. It's really frustrating that so many people will take art and ERASE the artist's name and copyright. So disrespectful of an artist's hard work -- and of course legally it absolutely does not change the fact that it's a copyrighted image by that artist.<br /><br />And then, once it's on one site free, other people will assume it's free too and put it up on their own site. Soon it's all over the internet.<br /><br />Some of the art may be there by permission - for instance sometimes companies will "advertise" a new product by allowing some coloring pages and allow it to be posted anywhere. <br /><br />But the majority you'll see on those sites is illegally posted. I know the official Precious Moments site has downloadable coloring pages and clip art for personal use --http://www.preciousmoments.com/content.cfm/precious-moments-coloring-pages -- but I don't think they allow other sites to post it (as you have to be a member to get most of their coloring pages and they have a strict terms of use.)<br /><br />Disney images (Pooh, Micky and friends) are all trademarked and most sites -- unless it's an official Disney site -- are hosting them illegally. I see lots of Sarah Kay and other stamp artists' art (and have even found my own work) up on these free sites. None of that is there legally either and when we find it, we get it taken down. But it is a full-time job and getting worse.<br /><br />So -- just because you see it up on the internet, doesn't mean it's there legally. You have to be careful. Best to look for freebies on individual company's and artist's sites. :)<br /><br />xoMoMo Manninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14282458244833366952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4996939283255428402.post-9069017758378022052011-11-11T04:16:12.471-08:002011-11-11T04:16:12.471-08:00MANY artists have similar problems,,,,hence this s...MANY artists have similar problems,,,,hence this site.<br /><br />I've been using paid digi stamps and free coloring pages from artists now for a couple months. I have to say that I LOVE them. They are a super huge bargain, compared to rubber stamps,,,,,,I keep the copyright on the work whenever possible,,,,or I write it on the bottom or back of the card when it isn't possible (space constraints, mostly),,,<br /><br />However, one thing is really confusing to me,,,,<br /><br />and it involves "free coloring pages" more than paid digi stamps,,,,,,in general, the paid digi stamps I've bought from various artists are very clear,,,,,,,there's an angel policy. If I'm confused, I email the artist. Plain and simple.<br /><br />But I often find free coloring pages online that are really cute,,,,,,the one example I can think of right this minute are "Precious Moments" coloring pages. Most of the time there's no copyright,,,,,,,the rest of the time, the copyright will vary, with the site that put the image online claiming ownership. free coloring pages dot com or whatever. Wouldn't the artist still retain the copyright?? And,,,,,no angel policy that I can find to tell me a thing. GAAH! frustrating LOL,,I so badly want to give proper credit.<br /><br />To make matters even MORE confusing,,,,,,I sometimes see the very same Precious Moments image on TWO DIFFERENT SITES..<br /><br />So WHO do I credit????? Am I even ALLOWED to make a card to GIVE a friend (Not talking SELLING here, just simple GIVING a card).<br /><br />VERY frustrating for a cardmaker, I assure you LOL.Holly Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06018238975930137729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4996939283255428402.post-10956172380391891762011-11-08T06:13:49.256-08:002011-11-08T06:13:49.256-08:00Hi Guys... I thought you might be interested in th...Hi Guys... I thought you might be interested in this? Another artist having similar problems...<br /><br />http://dulemba.blogspot.com/2011/11/10-ways-to-protect-your-art-online.html<br /><br />ArabellaArabellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15844407118027397532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4996939283255428402.post-54179616675910250142011-11-02T19:48:31.897-07:002011-11-02T19:48:31.897-07:00That is really what we want to do Barbara provide ...That is really what we want to do Barbara provide information so that everyone is more informed, thanks!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14061294295376713033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4996939283255428402.post-76213884113102382142011-11-02T19:15:44.079-07:002011-11-02T19:15:44.079-07:00I love the way you put it Michelle,im so more info...I love the way you put it Michelle,im so more informed i didnt know about the rubber stamping copyright and i was about to join a swap stamping images.I asked Mo and thank goodness she told me. Then i went back to the site and let them know what Mo had said.And happy to say the whole swap was closed and they didnt boot me off their site.LOL!! And honestly if you cant afford a digital image or a rubber stamp save your quarters till you can.Pennys will take you forever.LOL!!I just love knowing all this infoBarbarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06673778007790803160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4996939283255428402.post-71556320450923271722011-10-29T03:46:31.916-07:002011-10-29T03:46:31.916-07:00Great post Michelle! :) Really clear and concise. ...Great post Michelle! :) Really clear and concise. I hope more people will understand what is OK and what is not now when buying a stamp.<br /><br />Hugs,<br />LauraLaurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10777091585600922169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4996939283255428402.post-60347532123248389222011-10-27T23:17:36.523-07:002011-10-27T23:17:36.523-07:00Well said!Well said!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4996939283255428402.post-32187929569260545442011-10-27T19:43:38.279-07:002011-10-27T19:43:38.279-07:00Spot on post Michelle:)Spot on post Michelle:)Wendy Hallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02240104815326596528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4996939283255428402.post-22905737304394376192011-10-27T18:20:07.384-07:002011-10-27T18:20:07.384-07:00Donna we are only citing reliable sources. I choo...Donna we are only citing reliable sources. I choose to believe the government who made the laws over some site on the internet with an ax to grind.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14061294295376713033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4996939283255428402.post-932648084996184752011-10-27T18:09:10.932-07:002011-10-27T18:09:10.932-07:00Why? So people could "choose" to be mis...Why? So people could "choose" to be misinformed like you are? Sorry, we're trying to let people know the truth about copyright -- this isn't "opinion" we're spouting. It's the law.Mo Manninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14282458244833366952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4996939283255428402.post-88482082542309985642011-10-27T17:56:12.958-07:002011-10-27T17:56:12.958-07:00Maybe you could leave the link I posted and let pe...Maybe you could leave the link I posted and let people decide for themselves.Donna C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10713824991010064694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4996939283255428402.post-29961719233585351312011-10-27T17:41:50.647-07:002011-10-27T17:41:50.647-07:00Sorry for deleting your post, Donna -- but Tabbero...Sorry for deleting your post, Donna -- but Tabberone is full of misinformation that we will not allow links to. If you want to read facts about copyright law try this: http://www.copyright.gov/Mo Manninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14282458244833366952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4996939283255428402.post-9688721927980918252011-10-27T16:36:44.537-07:002011-10-27T16:36:44.537-07:00loved the comparison to purchasing a CD and owning...loved the comparison to purchasing a CD and owning the CD but not the songs ON the CD,,,,I think that really makes things so much easier to understand! thanks for a great post!Holly Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06018238975930137729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4996939283255428402.post-38677638709128874702011-10-27T12:34:55.261-07:002011-10-27T12:34:55.261-07:00Amen Sister! :)Amen Sister! :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05777100920975126602noreply@blogger.com